Cleveland 8-10-04 Beachland Ballroom

[obsessedwithNC]

[noise]
74 DAYS AND COUNTING!

Oooo boy Glen Phillips and Nickel Creek! It'll be my third Creek show; first Glen.

I'm excited beyond belief. But I've never heard of the Beachland Ballroom. On the nickelcreek.com schedule it says it's general admission, standing room only. Is it a small venue? Does anyone know approximately how many people can attend the show?

and finally:

Who else is planning on being there?!

[rlb330]

It's a fairly small venue. I've been to two concerts there and it reminds me of a high school gym with a raised stage in front. I find it odd that they chose that venue because it's not in a great area of town and the acoustics of the place are *terrible*. The sound setup of the two concerts I went to consisted of a microphone sitting in front of an amp.

I'll definitely be there though. ;-)

Edited to add:

Allison.....I just went to buy my ticket and I see it's an 18 and over only show. Did you know that?

[mandolinquent]

I'm thinking about making the 2 hour trip to come, but I've never heard anything by Glen so I'm a little hesitant. Of course, it is with NC also, so I'm sure it'll be great. Also, its only 2 days after I get back from the symposium so I'm sure I'll be tired, but in the mood for more mando! lol

[Em1120]

I am so incredibly pumped. I've been to the tavern side of Beachland Ballroom building, but not the ballroom side, although I'm sure it's pretty small.
Definitely check out Glen Phillips and Toad the Wet Sprocket. If you decide to make the trek, mandolinquent, I'm sure it will be worth it! YAY!!! [party]

[Alto_girl]

Hey everyone, I don't mean to just break in, but where exactly is the show that yall are talking about ? ~Steph:D

[rlb330]

It's in the title of the thread: Cleveland 8-10-04 Beachland Ballroom

[Em1120]

Beachland Ballroom, Cleveland, Ohio :)

[transformed]

i'll try to go...if logistics work out...

should be a good show. i haven't heard glen solo but i like Toad a lot...yay.

[obsessedwithNC]

<!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>

[sob]why[sob]

Why would they do an 18+ show? Is it just the venue? I can't believe this!! What can I do, guys?!

[rlb330]

I just went and checked the website and found this blurb:

Most Beachland shows are 18+, though on rare occasions we have all ages or 21+ shows. Exceptions are made for those accompanied by a parent or legally responsible adult

I think you'll probably be good to go if your dad takes you. You should probably call them and make sure first though.

[Em1120]

I know, that does stink... the only reason I could think of is that it's really, really small (not the best place for them to play in my opinion, but...) and they needed to put some sort of restrictionon the show? I actually wanted to take my little sister, but she's under 18. I don't know... :(
Maybe someone else would have an idea.

[obsessedwithNC]

Oh, gosh okay! I hope the show's not sold out yet or something... errr I'm on it! I think we'll call in a little bit, or would it be closed on Memorial Day? Gahhhhhh

Originally posted by rlb330
I think you'll probably be good to go if your dad takes you. You should probably call them and make sure first though.

P.s. I just added you on Livejournal

[NCLuver333]

Originally posted by obsessedwithNC
<!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>

[sob]why[sob]

Why would they do an 18+ show? Is it just the venue? I can't believe this!! What can I do, guys?!

Yep...Well, this summer, I'm missing my fourth NC concert due to age restrictions...I missed the one in NYC in November 2003, and now I'm gonna miss one in Boston and the double night in NYC this summer...[sob] I know how ya feel.

[transformed]

wow, that really sucks!
kinda makes me mad that some big fans like you guys who just love the band and the music can't go to the shows, just so some jaded, cynical middle age person who could care less about nickel creek can go half-listen and have their beer.

k maybe i'm a bit cynical myself...but seriously.

[grumpy]

[obsessedwithNC]

Originally posted by transformed
jaded, cynical middle age person who could care less about nickel creek can go half-listen and have their beer.

k maybe i'm a bit cynical myself...but seriously.



NO, seriously; you're right! ...and those people are the ones who ruin the recordings of live shows with their groans and annoying shouts of song requests that the band has no intention of playing! But like Rachael said, I might be able to go to the concert if my dad takes me (as I was planning! There's no way in heck my parents were letting a 15-year-old downtown by herself, and neither did I want to go by myself! haha) I emailed the Ballroom last night and my dad is going to call later today.

[Em1120]

Originally posted by transformed
wow, that really sucks!
kinda makes me mad that some big fans like you guys who just love the band and the music can't go to the shows, just so some jaded, cynical middle age person who could care less about nickel creek can go half-listen and have their beer.

k maybe i'm a bit cynical myself...but seriously.

[grumpy]

I have to agree with that... The worst I remember was down at the Tall Stacks Festival. We were surrounded by drunk middle aged men and women. We could barely hear the show at all! It was probably my least fav Nickel Creek show for that very reason (of couse NC was great).
I really hope you get to go, obsessed! I'm sure you'll be able to work something out. :D

[obsessedwithNC]

Gahhh! Well, I called today and got an email in response, and I am allowed to go; but there is a two dollar cover charge. Whatever! Now all I have to do is wait for my parents to come home so I can buy tickets! Wheeeee[party]

[transformed]

awesome! didn't you (or someone) say on the other thread that you can't go even if your parents are with you? well i'm glad you can go! maybe i will see you there. i am trying to decide if i should go ahead and buy my ticket...i don't even know where i am working yet this summer...??

so...18-20 year olds are allowed in, right?

[Jimmie]

Originally posted by rlb330
It's a fairly small venue. I've been to two concerts there and it reminds me of a high school gym with a raised stage in front. I find it odd that they chose that venue because it's not in a great area of town and the acoustics of the place are *terrible*. The sound setup of the two concerts I went to consisted of a microphone sitting in front of an amp.

I've been to countless shows at the Beachland, and I'm rather intimately familiar with the room. The Beachland is an old ethnic ballroom (Croatian, to be precise), and the acoustics of the room are WONDERFUL. The sound guys are generally good, though the quality can vary depending on which person is in charge on any particular evening.

The owners, Cindy and Mark, bought it in early 2000 and have done a great job of turning it into a music club. They feature a lot of different kinds of music, some of which I love and some I won't touch. But they've managed to make it successful, which is more than a lot of new club owners are able to do. The food's pretty good, too.

Glen Phillips has been there several times in the past, but always solo. Frankly, it's probably too small a room for the MAS show, so it will probably sell out quickly. But it's a really nice club, and I think it's going to be a great show.

I wish I could tell you more about their age policies. I often bring my daughter to shows there - in fact, we'll be going there together this Friday to see Mindy Smith - but I've never asked them about their policies toward teens without parents. If I get the chance, I'll ask about it and report back.

[transformed]

thanks for the info!
i guess if i'm gonna go i should get a ticket soon....

[lizbeth_marie]

I'll most definitely be making the trip from Indy. It's the closest show since Tall Stacks last fall. I'm really hoping that since this is the first leg of the tour I'll be able to catch them in Indy as well. I'm not holding my breath though. If I had to deal with the crappy concert crowds in Indy I don't know that I'd go either. Anyway, got my tickets and I'm really excited to see the show. Glen & NC together is always a good show. Then again, any Glen show or NC show together or apart is a good show. :)


:)
Liz

[obsessedwithNC]

Two tickets! Yay, my dad is taking me. My mom doesn't do concerts, lol. When I called Beachland the guy was really nice and said under 18 was allowed with a guardian. He also said the tickets were going fairly quickly and to buy them as soon as possible.

(and no, that wasn't me in another thread, transformed)

[Jimmie]

Originally posted by Jimmie

I wish I could tell you more about their age policies. I often bring my daughter to shows there - in fact, we'll be going there together this Friday to see Mindy Smith - but I've never asked them about their policies toward teens without parents. If I get the chance, I'll ask about it and report back. OK, I spoke with Cindy (owner of the Beachland) last night. She confirms that those under 18 are welcome at the Beachland (for the MAS show) as long as they are accompanied by a responsible adult.

For that matter, the same is true for tonight's show. We're really looking forward to seeing Mindy again!

[Em1120]

Got my tickets last night... I'm now worry-free :)

[Jimmie]

I just got the latest media PR blurb from the Beachland. It has some interesting news about the MAS show. I would assume that these same special guests will be working with MAS throughout the tour, not just in Cleveland. Here's what it had to say:

Tues. Aug. 10 The Mutual Admiration Society featuring Chris Thile, Sara Watkins and Sean Watkins (of Nickel Creek) and Glenn Phillips (of Toad The Wet Sprocket) and very special guests Pete Thomas (Elvis Costello and the Attractions) on drums and John Paul Jones (Led Zeppelin) on bass 8 PM, $25, Ballroom, non-smoking show

[rlb330]

I just ordered my tickets this morning. I can't wait! I'm *so* glad to see it's a non-smoking show. The other two times I went to the Beachland, I could hardly breathe through the whole show.

[obsessedwithNC]

My tickets came today from a UPS truck. Yay!

I can't believe the show is in less than two weeks! I think I feel faint! :D

[rlb330]

Yeah, mine too. Did you see that nifty little $2 surcharge for patrons under 21? I guess they want to get their money's worth out of you since you won't be drinking...

[obsessedwithNC]

Yeah, but heck- I'd pay a 20 dollar surcharge. Itisnickelcreek, after all!!!

[obsessedwithNC]

*panic attack* Cameras? Non-flash I presume?

I wish I'll get seats like I did at the Odeon. ;) lol, Rachael.

[ETA] OMG! On http://www.beachlandballroom.com/ it says the show is in the Tavern, but the tickets say in the Ballroom.

????

[Em1120]

I'll be there... I really hope it's not in the tavern! I mean, it's fine for little crowds, but not for NC and MAS!!! We'll see I guess...

[rlb330]

Originally posted by obsessedwithNC
*panic attack* Cameras? Non-flash I presume?

I wish I'll get seats like I did at the Odeon. ;) lol, Rachael.

[ETA] OMG! On http://www.beachlandballroom.com/ it says the show is in the Tavern, but the tickets say in the Ballroom.

????

Chris made everyone put their cameras away at the Kent State show he did with Mike Marshall. Hopefully he won't do that this time. I couldn't find the charger for my good camera, so I'm stuck with my little mini camera with no zoom. I hope I can get close enough to get some decent pictures.

See you there Allison...

[obsessedwithNC]

OMG. That show was incredible!!! I loved All I Want Anthony Going to California and Chris' Bach thing. Sad that the encore wasn't acoustic but whatever... I like Glen a lot now. Anyone have the full setlist?

I was dared by my friends to kiss Chris and get a picture. Nicely he declined because he was married but so I kissed Sean! Ahahaha I was like Sean, I have a weird question... (and this time he wasn't grumpy after the show) and he looks at me and I said I was dared to kiss you and get a picture THE WHOLE CROWD GOES ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh and so he says Of you kissing me? and I said Yep and he grinned and said Okay!! But a tame one! and everyone laughed. So I kissed him on his cheek and my dad took a picture. I'll post it tomorrow (wednesday afternoon) when I get them on the computer.

We left after I met Chris and Glen because I have a meeting to go to in the morning for school. Did anyone stick around long enough to see if there was a little concert or whatnot? Or to see if Sara came back? I didn't like the band being behind that makeshift guardrail and the security and stuff... blah.

Every Nickel Creek show I go to is better than the last!! This one was soooo entertaining!!! I love Nickel Creeeeek!!!!

[eta] forgot to mention where I was standing... right in the center, 2nd row I guess... I was one person from the stage


[eta] Did anyone else see Chris and JPJ before the concert drive away in that red Subaru thing? LOL.. and afterwards my dad and I were pulling out of the parking lot, there Chris and Fielding were, right in the bar!!! It was funny. I waved.

[eta] Chris also said to look for an East Coast symposium in March!!

[Em1120]

Fabulous... energetic... fantastic... and much much more! Everyone who stayed home missed out for sure!!!

[rlb330]

Here (http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?c=onnhlz.8rrtdu6n&x=0&y=zih0om) are the pictures I took. They're mostly blurry because I didn't have my good camera with me. You get the general idea though. Enjoy!

[mandolinquent]

Great show- loved the Fox medley at the end. My husband (who has become more accepting of the mando since I returned from the symposium) really loved the Zepplin stuff they did, and he liked John Paul on the mando a lot. However, it seemed like everyone at the show went to the bus and I remember in Kent it was very few people. This meant not too many autographs were signed, but I cant complain just getting home from a week with Chris. The crowd was different this time, it seemed many were there for John Paul Jones. No, no jamming at the bus, I think because of the big crowd. Plus, Sara (and I think Chris too) had friends there. Sara did eventually come back and come out to sign a few things. And at the very end John Paul Jones did come out. Weird seeing 2 police officers providing security, but I guess its better to be safe than sorry. Overall, different crowd than a creek show, but still rocking!

[GreenandGrey]

The concert really blew me away, all of their voices are so much stronger live! Sara & Glen particularly. The opening number and the Fox were awesome!

Meeting them afterward was crazy. I'm not one to get worked up about meeting someone, but for some reason when I met Sara I was super nervous! I gave her a song I wrote and she seemed very nice and patient in talking to me, but i felt like she was thinking Are you going to be ok!?![bang] Then meeting Glen and Chris was cool, down to earth and nice... I behaved myself much better with them. :)

On a side note, I had great conversation with a couple (i think they were a couple) from Toledo, and there was a girl behind me who I deemed to be 'the most beautiful woman i've ever seen.' Naturally, I didn't talk to her [bang] [bang] [bang] [bang] .

All in all, this made for a very eventful night! Lots of fun!

[Em1120]

Yeah, I really wanted to chat with them, thank them for a great show... but I didn't like how the bus was roped off and there was a mob of people around it. I'm just over 5 feet and couldn't see, not to mention get remotely close to them after the show. I was actually thinking about having them sign the cd sampler but so much for that. I didn't matter though. It was an awesome show and they always leave me wanting more... [noise]

[obsessedwithNC]

The infamous pic.

[obsessedwithNC]

Originally posted by GreenandGrey
I'm not one to get worked up about meeting someone, but for some reason when I met Sara I was super nervous! bang]

So she came back? How long was she gone for? Just wondering. :(

[eta] Did anyone get a setlist?

[Em1120]

Wow, getting a little fresh with Sean, eh?

[obsessedwithNC]

Originally posted by Em1120
Wow, getting a little fresh with Sean, eh?

;) I was dared to kiss Chris and Sean by my friends, so I did. Sean was funny about it, he was like Don't get wild! A tame one ... Chris said no because he was married which I understand. It was fun, I would have regretted not asking though. :p

[UpInYourHeart]

I hope I don't get in trouble for saying this but when I looked at the pic the first thing that popped into my mind was edit LOL (not saying anything negative about you because you're cool and all, but umm Sean, the grin it's so... edit ;))

edited by mod

[Em1120]

Haha, I think I actually saw you get a pic with Chris because I thought I heard him say something about being married, lol. I was stuck behind the mob/parked car. You must've had a good time! ;)

[obsessedwithNC]

Originally posted by UpInYourHeart
I hope I don't get in trouble for saying this but... ;)

Haha.. I don't care and yeah I noticed that grin too.

Originally posted by Em1120
I think I saw you...
Yeah, also I spilled my CDs everywhere I tripped on the car haha. <3

edited by mod

[Elizabeth]

Originally posted by obsessedwithNC
I was dared by my friends to kiss Chris and get a picture. Nicely he declined because he was married but so I kissed Sean!

Me? Jealous??? Never!!! LOL! I'm am ridiculously jealous, but I would never have the guts to ask him if I could kiss him, even if I had been dared to do it. That's a cute picture of the two of you! :)

[mandolinquent]

Originally posted by GreenandGrey
...On a side note, I had great conversation with a couple (i think they were a couple) from Toledo...


Hmmm, very interesting....I'm 1/2 of a couple from Toledo that was there last night and had a great conversation with a few people. Could one of them be you?

[GreenandGrey]

Well I was the guy who gave Nickel Creek my song I wrote... I talked to a couple who just went to Wisconsin, be that you?

[obsessedwithNC]

I spoke with a taper after the show, the one that was in the back corner of the room and he gave me his email address to contact him, but it doesn't work! Did anyone else talk to this same man? His shirt was black and it said Tapers do it... The email address he gave me (which doesn't work) is jfranzieb@hotmail.com or maybe can I not read his handwriting?

[Muppet]

I am compiling the setlist for the show so I can post the recording to the archive, and was wondering if anyone knows the name of the bach piece Chris performed. I'm pretty sure it was one of the variations, but not completely sure. Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Eric

[Muppet]

here's what i have so far,

Mutual Admiration Society
(Glen Phillips, Chris Thile, Sara Watkins, Sean Watkins
with John Paul Jones and Pete Thomas)
Beachland Ballroom
Cleveland, OH
August 10, 2004

Taper: Eric Strickland

Equipment: MM-BSM-1 Omnis-> MM-EBM-1 Battery Module (69hz roll-off)-> Nomad Jukebox 3(44.1 kHz wav)

Transfer: JB3 -> PC via 1394 cable -> Sound forge 7.0 -> CDWav -> FLAC

Processing: in Sound Forge 7.0
3-9 dB gain during solo portions
EQ -9dB low end; +6dB high end
Timeworkz Mastering Compressor threshhold -5dB; max -1dB

Setlist:
1. d1t01 Sake Of The World (3:07)
2. d1t02 Trouble *(3:07)
3. d1t03 Caleb Meyer **(2:51)
4. d1t04 Windmills (4:16)
5. d1t05 Smoothie Song (5:52)
6. d1t06 Son Of Sam ***(3:02)
7. d1t07 La Lune ****(4:12)
8. d1t08 Somewhere Out There (3:35)
9. d1t09 This Side (3:31)
10. d1t10 All I Want (4:02)
11. d1t11 Anthony (Sara, Glen, John, Chris) (3:44)
12. d1t12 Going To California (John, Sean) @(4:29)
13. d1t13 Don't Need Anything (Glen)(2:22)
14. d1t14 Bach Variation (Chris) (4:50)
15. d2t01 Let It Fall (Glen, Sean, Chris, Sara) (5:00)
16. d2t02 True (3:18)
17. d2t03 Taxman #(3:39)
18. d2t04 Dam Would Break (4:03)
19. d2t05 Reasons Why (3:54)
20. d2t06 Ode To A Butterfly (4:18)
21. d2t07 Thre Comes a Time (3:40)
22. d2t08 Think About Your Troubles$ -> Fox -> Drone% -> Subterranean Homesick Blues^ (9:41)
23. d2t09 Gallow's Pole @(6:36)
24. d2t10 You Don't Have To Move That Mountain &(5:33)

Notes:
* Jon Brion
** Gillian Welch
*** Elliot Smith
**** Sean Kennedy
@ Led Zeppelin
# Beatles
$ Harry Nillson
% David Garza
^ Bob Dylan
& Keith Whitley

[Jimmie]

Originally posted by Muppet
I am compiling the setlist for the show so I can post the recording to the archive, and was wondering if anyone knows the name of the bach piece Chris performed.
Bach: Prelude from Partita No. 3 for Solo Violin

http://www.classicalmidi.gothere.uk.com/3401006_pre.mid

[Muppet]

Originally posted by Jimmie

Bach: Prelude from Partita No. 3 for Solo Violin

http://www.classicalmidi.gothere.uk.com/3401006_pre.mid

Hey cool! That's the one. Upload has commenced. I will post again when the show has been accepted into the archive.
Eric

[Muppet]

It should be available for download soon at http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=17259
Eric

[obsessedwithNC]

Yes! I'm starting to like archive.org better than doing trades or B&Ps. :D Thanks Eric.

Jimmie, just wondering- what is your profession? You seem so smart and know a lot about music. I'm impressed.

[lizbeth_marie]

Just an FYI- the show is up now and it's a great recording!

Thanks for sharing it with us all. The show was freaking awesome- my first show in over a year due to the stupid midwest location of Indianapolis. (I had to drive over 5 hours just to get to this one- but it was well worth it.) I only wish it was somehow possible to bottle up even just a little of the passion that is so contagious when they're playing. Gallows Pole was one of the best numbers I've ever seen them do. Amazing.

:)
Liz

[Muppet]

I was just stopping by to mention that the recording is ready for download but Liz beat me to the punch. Glad you are enjoying it Liz.

Again, here's the link:
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=17259

Enjoy,
Eric [noise]

[Jimmie]

Originally posted by obsessedwithNC
Jimmie, just wondering- what is your profession? You seem so smart and know a lot about music. I'm impressed. Well thanks! My profession has nothing to do with music, but several hobbies do. For the past 25 years, I've been doing a weekly folk music show on the radio here every Saturday morning. WRUW brought me in to do the show because I knew something about music, and I guess I've learned a bit more in the intervening decades.

In addition, I am a recording engineer for a couple of local non-commercial stations. (And I'll have more on that topic here in a few weeks). That's one of the reasons that I'm so familiar with the Beachland - I've recorded quite a few shows there over the past few years.

Lizbeth, wasn't that you that I met in while waiting in line in Cinci at the NC concert there a year and a half ago? If I'd known you were at the Cleveland show, I'd have tried to say hi. I probably saw you there, but after almost two years, I don't really remember what you look like.

[obsessedwithNC]

Originally posted by Jimmie
For the past 25 years, I've been doing a weekly folk music show on the radio here every Saturday morning. WRUW brought me in to do the show because I knew something about music, and I guess I've learned a bit more in the intervening decades.

How neat. At what time can I tune in to hear you?

[Jimmie]

Originally posted by obsessedwithNC
How neat. At what time can I tune in to hear you? 9AM every Saturday, FM 91.1.

[lizbeth_marie]

Jimmie- I think I did meet you- I'd totally forgotten about that. That Cincy show ranks up as one of my favorites. I didn't ever come across any recording of it however. Anyway- sorry I didn't say Hi. I would've been the same way about trying to recognize anyone after a year or two has passed. I actually haven't been on the forum much, so I didn't really know how many from around here were planning to go to the show. Hopefully we'll get another show in the midwest in the spring that I won't have to drive for 5 hours to catch. :)

Liz