stop the madness

[mandoBob]

I dont want to encourage this behavior (and I'm afraid this post just might do that), but what the heck is up with paying a TON of money (relatively speaking) for a demo copy of the new CD on a certain auction website? have you no patience? or respect for the band? I know I know, you'll go out and buy the store version when it comes, but geez! I think you'd be better off buying 10 copies of the CD when it comes out and handing them out to random people.

[alysonluvsNC]

i saw that too, mandoBob - it's up to about $80 now.

i work at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - and our music critic said that the person selling it could get in a lot of trouble from the label . . . .

wonder how the seller got it? it doesn't even have the same cover art like on the website. . .
[think har

[Chip]

Especially since advance copies are not for resale, the band gets no revenue from them, and whomever is auctioning it is basically violating the whole spirit and purpose for which advance copies are distributed.

[alysonluvsNC]

can we bust them?

we meaning the loyal and loving fans of sara, sean and chris.

can't the seller get in trouble?

[evil eye]

** i am not a mean-hearted person, i just believe that people should be reprimanded for their wrong actions. **

[mandoBob]

apparently NC or sugar hill would need to step in:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-promotional.html

[sarah]

ok this makes me a little mad too. it doesn't seem fair to nickel creek. but i also wonder how they got it and why it has a different cover.

[Chip]

Unfortunately, promo disks get sold by reviewers to unscrupulous record stores who, in turn, resell them. This robs the artist and the record company.

However, the matter has been taken care of... item is no longer for auction, and I suspect that it won't change hands.

Copyright infringement (which is what selling a not-for-resale CD is) on not-yet-released recordings is pretty serious busness in the eyes of record companies, with a large statutory fine attached. Most people get the message when it's pointed out to them.

[alwayslisten]

that makes me sad

[bluegrasshead]

I contacted the seller regarding the CD. They responded very quickly and thanked me for the heads up. They responded saying they would end the auction, which it looks like they did. They told me they found this at a CD store in Chicago and found it in a dump bin, filled with CD singles, etc. Working in the biz myself I have to say that sadly it does exsist and I see it all the time. I once saw a Sting CD in a used store 2 weeks before it was supposed to come out. Even worse I have seen major label record reps sell promo's out of the trunk of their car!

I also did a check on the keyword promo cd on ebay and was stunned to see so many listings. I guess from a collectors point there is a market for such things.

Oh well, at least they had the sense to respect us and end the auction.

BGH
Brandon, Fla

[katiekind]

If you ever see anything like that again, you can send it to the band's management company and I think they will follow up.

[NCFan4Ever]

Well, it's good that whoever was selling it stopped the auction! That is such CRAP to make money off music that isn't yours to sell! Mandobob, I have to give props to you for bringing this to all of our attention!

[nitejule]

the only thing is that its a really rare item if you are a music collector of certain bands. its just the fact that its rare and some people would love to have things like that, i know i have done my share of rare band collecting, and mostly buy rare/odd posters from people. mostly stuff that has been in music stores, and it can cost quite a pretty penny.

[NCFan4Ever]

well, i would love to have that rare NC stuff...but I would only want to buy it if the label/band were selling it themselves....I wouldn't want to help them lose money, even if it's only a little bit.

But what my real question is, is who in the WORLD would choose to sell anything rare of NIckel Creek's? I mean, if I had one of those promo cds, I'd hold onto it for dear life!

[nitejule]

i agree i would keep it too, lol. but some people are only out there to make money on stuff like that, and thats kinda the sad part about collecting some things.

[Chip]

For me, the main issue here was that the seller didn't give a darn if it was Nickel Creek or anybody else, didn't care that it was an unreleased record... all he was interested in was making a few bucks.

I'm all for collectables, and I probably wouldn't have much of an objection if somebody bought it *after* the CD was released... but then again, it would probably only bring a small amount of money if it were sold after the album release.

[NCFan4Ever]

Just out of curiosity, how did people get the advanced copies of the new CD? I mean, you'd think that the record company would only give them out to people who they knew they could trust not to sell them!

[nitejule]

i can see where you are coming from chip. selling it before the record is out is a no no, and sellers that sell that kinda thing should know that. if it came out after the cd release i would buy it still as i am sure some other nickel creek fans would too, but there are just some things they we can't do anything about. and trying to get people not to sell certain things is one of those things that is hard to take control of or stop.

[Chip]

Actually, advance copies are fairly widely distributed to reviewers, radio, and the like... it's not so much like it's a big secret, it's just a logistical thing where it takes 6-10 weeks, sometimes longer, to get an album reviewed, so the record companies start contacting reviewers way in advance of when the record is actually released.

Unfortunately, some of the less ethical reviewers and radio stations sell their copies to less than ethical record stores, who sell them...

[jaceyhomen]

I once worked at a large CBS tv/radio station. We got advance copies (records then!) all the time, passed them around, listened to them, took them home to share, brought them back. It wouldn't have been difficult at all to take advantage of that.