Alternatie "Fox" lyrics?

[Banjo_Ken]

I just read in the new face the music section that somebody discovered that Tolkein had written alternate lyrics to the fox. My friend just recently discovered the poem completly independently, and we got all excited when we realized that it fit the fox perfectly! It's a bit of a dissapointment now to realize that we weren't the first. Does Nickel Creek know about this, and if so, how long? Has anybody ever heard them sing the Tolkien lyrics?

Ken

[Skippy]

What are they!!!!!

[Skippy]

Found Them

Song About Old Troll

Troll sat alone on his seat of stone,
And munched and mumbled a bare old bone;
For many a year he had gnawed it near,
For meat was hard to come by.
Done by! Gum by!
In a cave in the hills he dwelt alone,
And meat was hard to come by.

Up came Tom with his big boots on.
Said he to Troll: Pray, what is yon?
For it looks like the shin o' my nuncle Tim,
As should be a-lyin' in graveyard.
Caveyard! Paveyard!
This many a year has Tim been gone,
And I thought he were lyin' in graveyard.

My lad, said Troll, this bone I stole.
But what be bones that lie in a hole?
Thy nuncle was dead as a lump o' lead,
Afore I found his shinbone.
Tinbone! Thinbone!
He can spare a share for a poor old troll,
For he don't need his shinbone.

Said Tom: I don't see why the likes o' thee
Without axin' leave should go makin' free
With the shank or the shin o' my father's kin;
So hand the old bone over!
Rover! Trover!
Though dead he be, it belongs to he;
So hand the old bone over!

For a couple o' pins, says Troll, and grins,
I'll eat thee too, and gnaw thy shins.
A bit o' fresh meat will go down sweet!
I'll try my teeth on thee now.*
Hee now! See now!
I'm tired o' gnawing old bones and skins;
I've a mind to dine on thee now.

*[as read by Tolkien on the tape:]
Thee'll be a nice change from thine nuncle.
Sunkle! Drunkle!
I'm tired of gnawing old bones and skins;
Thee'll be a nice change from thine nuncle.

But just as he thought his dinner was caught,
He found his hands had hold of naught.
Before he could mind, Tom slipped behind
And gave him the boot to larn him.
Warn him! Darn him!
A bump o' the boot on the seat, Tom thought,
Would be the way to larn him.

But harder than stone is the flesh and bone
Of a troll that sits in the hills alone.
As well set your boot to the mountain's root,
For the seat of a troll don't feel it.
Peel it! Heal it!
Old Troll laughed, when he heard Tom groan,
And he knew his toes could feel it.

Tom's leg is game, since home he came,
And his bootless foot is lasting lame;
But Troll don't care, and he's still there
With the bone he boned from it's owner.
Doner! Boner!
Troll's old seat is still the same,
And the bone he boned from it's owner!

[matt the fiddler]

like those lyrics? :D i was reading fellowship of the rings [for like the 10th time] about a year ago- and just kinda made the connection to the fox. - i always try to put music in my head with tolkiens poetry when i read. tehn i posted on the yahoo club, and a guy there [gullunge1] found a recording of tolkien singing them. to my knowlege i was the first person to make the connection to it. did anyone find it before then?


yes- they all know about the new lyrics lyrics and chris has a recording of tolkien singing that song. and no- they haven't performed the troll lyrics yet- [as chris apparently hasn't memorized them yet] but someday hopefully they will! - it would be a way for them to add a new element of fun to a song that they surly very weary performing....

the poem can be found in the chapter flight to the ford- just before the big chase to rivendale.

the song that tolkien sings is a little different, but definatly the same tune- [he sings it a lot slower] he is know for takeing folk and childrens tunes and puttign new twists on them- [for example go check out his version of hey diddle diddle]

hope you all have fun exploring the most awsome author of last 100 years. [with cs. lewis coming in a near 2nd]

[matt the fiddler]

tell him not to be dissapointed- lol
he must think like i do to have found them.
plus it is much more rewarding to find stuff on your own than to have some one tell you about it!



BTW- if anyone hears the troll- and i find out that they didn't tell us that creek performed it- you might taken away by aliens[alien] and unable to post on the forum anymore.


well.... not really. [evil eye]

matt the fiddler [and tolkien addict]